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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby MSchwiebert » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:28 pm

Just out of curiosity, how are the first MK SD40-2 rebuilds classified in the "built for" figures? Due to an agreement with the unions that represented the CSX workers at Huntington, CSX could not simply send SD40's out to Boise and have them come back rebuilt. To work around that, CSX sold the SD40's to MK and MK in turn provided SD40/45 cores to be rebuilt as SD40-2's for CSX. Most of the of those were of UP & SP Heritage.
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Unread postby Saturnalia » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:50 pm

MSchwiebert wrote:Just out of curiosity, how are the first MK SD40-2 rebuilds classified in the "built for" figures? Due to an agreement with the unions that represented the CSX workers at Huntington, CSX could not simply send SD40's out to Boise and have them come back rebuilt. To work around that, CSX sold the SD40's to MK and MK in turn provided SD40/45 cores to be rebuilt as SD40-2's for CSX. Most of the of those were of UP & SP Heritage.

Good question.

I have classed those as built for CSX. With rebuilds that change model designation, I have considered them to be "new" for the purposes of built for, built by, and build year.

Thus 8439-8488 are classed as SD40-2s built by MK in 1989, for CSX.

Likewise, the 8305-8436 are classed as SD40-2s built by CSX in 1989, for CSX. As these were completed by CSX internally.

I have been contemplating modifying this structure to differentiate between units existing as-built, and rebuilds. No decision on that yet, I'd have to figure out how to overlay it and haven't given that too much thought yet.

Hope that makes sense. I figure these major rebuilds make essentially new units for our purposes of tabulating age and who ordered them. There are certainly other ways of accounting it, but I find this to be the most insightful.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby MSchwiebert » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:08 am

Thanks! Interestingly I didn't realize the batch of rebuilds was that "small" in numbers (for some reason I was thinking it was 100 units).

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MSchwiebert wrote:Just out of curiosity, how are the first MK SD40-2 rebuilds classified in the "built for" figures? Due to an agreement with the unions that represented the CSX workers at Huntington, CSX could not simply send SD40's out to Boise and have them come back rebuilt. To work around that, CSX sold the SD40's to MK and MK in turn provided SD40/45 cores to be rebuilt as SD40-2's for CSX. Most of the of those were of UP & SP Heritage.

Good question.

I have classed those as built for CSX. With rebuilds that change model designation, I have considered them to be "new" for the purposes of built for, built by, and build year.

Thus 8439-8488 are classed as SD40-2s built by MK in 1989, for CSX.

Likewise, the 8305-8436 are classed as SD40-2s built by CSX in 1989, for CSX. As these were completed by CSX internally.

I have been contemplating modifying this structure to differentiate between units existing as-built, and rebuilds. No decision on that yet, I'd have to figure out how to overlay it and haven't given that too much thought yet.

Hope that makes sense. I figure these major rebuilds make essentially new units for our purposes of tabulating age and who ordered them. There are certainly other ways of accounting it, but I find this to be the most insightful.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby trainspot » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:36 am

4402 & 5000 were involved in a slow speed head on collision this morning:
http://6abc.com/news/freight-trains-collide-in-delaware-county;-several-injured/1577155/
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby MQT1223 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:58 pm

trainspot wrote:4402 & 5000 were involved in a slow speed head on collision this morning:
http://6abc.com/news/freight-trains-collide-in-delaware-county;-several-injured/1577155/

Damage doesn't look too extreme. I bet both will return. Curious if the Diversity In Motion decal will be reapplied.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby trainspot » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:58 pm

[quote="MQT1223]Damage doesn't look too extreme. I bet both will return. Curious if the Diversity In Motion decal will be reapplied.[/quote]

Doubtful, I know at least one of the three had the doors replaced altering the decal
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:30 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update October 2016

Pretty straightforward this month, after a busy August and September.

YN2 Repaints:
102 CW44AC
343 CW44AC
441 CW44AC
5012 CW60AC
7664 C40-8W
7825 C40-8W
7860 C40-8W
Now 722 YN2

YN3 Repaints:
2202 RD SLUG
4579 SD70AC
4764 SD70AC
5258 ES40DC
6225 GP40-2
6940 GP40-2
8786 SD60M
Now 2315 YN3

New Units:
3401-3410 - New ET44AH; Built by GE Fort Worth
3430-3434 – New ET44AH; Built by GE Fort Worth
Now 185 ET44AH

Rebuilds:
none

Retirements
none

New Current Paint totals (pct), change:
YN3B: 1243 (29.04%), +29
YN3: 2315 (54.09%), -7
YN2: 722 (16.87%), -7

Built for totals (pct), change:
CSX Transportation: 2856 (66.73%) +15
Seaboard System: 524 (12.24%) no change
Conrail: 448 (10.47%) no change
Chessie System: 416 (9.72%) no change
Other [not from CSX tree]: 31 (0.72%) no change
Misc Predecessors: 5 (0.12%) no change

Builder totals (pct), change:
General Electric: 2162 (50.51%) +15
Electro-Motive: 1518 (35.47%) no change
CSX in-house: 220 (5.14%) no change
Other: 380 (8.88%) no change

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1995.66 (+0.07)
Total Units on Roster: 4280 (+15)
Total Available Horsepower: 14,702,500 (+73,400)

*Build dates use whole years on the roster. Margin of error +/- 0.25 years
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby trainspot » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:11 am

trainspot wrote:4402 & 5000 were involved in a slow speed head on collision this morning:
http://6abc.com/news/freight-trains-collide-in-delaware-county;-several-injured/1577155/


Rumors saying 4402 is totaled (frame damage) and 5000 may be sent to GE.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby MQT1223 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:27 am

trainspot wrote:
trainspot wrote:4402 & 5000 were involved in a slow speed head on collision this morning:
http://6abc.com/news/freight-trains-collide-in-delaware-county;-several-injured/1577155/


Rumors saying 4402 is totaled (frame damage) and 5000 may be sent to GE.


Frame damage for any locomotive will usually do it.
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Unread postby Saturnalia » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:59 pm

7332 is newly in YN3B, with a SBD emblem on the side of the nose.
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Unread postby MQT1223 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:37 pm

CSX 4384 and SD40-3 rebuild has been painted up in YN3B with a modification to the nose portion of the paint scheme. It has "Clinchfield" painted across the front of the nose with Clinchfield emblems paintes on the sides of the nose. It will apparently lead the Santa Train this year.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby TrainWatcher » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:38 pm

Guess you can add this as a "one time deal" CSXT SD40-3 #4384 dressed, rather sloppily, as a "Clinchfield" unit. R. Flanary photo from Facebook. Honestly, it looks like crap.

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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby trainspot » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:40 am

1171 has been repainted:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4587342
and 7670 has a Monon decal.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:06 am

Hot off the wire:

CSXT 1700 SD33ECO 3250 Hp. Formerly CSXT 8123 SD40-2.

Get ready for a new 1700 series of SD33ECO rebuilds. Cab type and other details as yet unknown, beyond the above.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:42 pm


Excellent. We're already going to be filling out the rest of the order this month, up to 3474. As expected, nothing shows in the computers beyond 3474, so it looks like the order was indeed for 300 GEVOs even.
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