CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

[trainspot]

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http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=4517697

[Saturnalia]

CSX Locomotive Roster Update July 2016

YN2 Repaints:
208 CW44AC
299 CW44AC
358 CW44AC
421 CW44AC
7750 C40-8W
8483 SD40-2
Now 838 YN2

YN3 Repaints:
922 ES44AH
1054 SWMT YS
1104 SW1500
2414 SD40-2
4304 GP39-2
4418 GP38-2S
4742 SD70AC
6156 GP38-2S
8228 SD40-2
8534 SD50-2
Now 2428 YN3

New Units:
-3422-3429. New ET44AH. Built by GE Fort Worth, TX.
Now 169 ET44AH

Rebuilds:
none

Retirements
5952 B20-8
5964 B40-8
5965 B20-8
5976 B20-8
8321 SD40-2
8810 SD40-2
Now 20 B20-8
Now 10 B40-8
Now 295 SD40-2

New Paint totals (pct), change:
YN3B: 1210 (26.50%), +24
YN3: 2443 (54.58%), -15
YN2: 838 (18.88%), -7
YN1: 1 (0.02%), no change
CR: 1 (0.02%), no change

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1995.16 (+0.05)
Total Units on Roster: 4478 (+2)

*Build dates use whole years on the roster. Actual number may vary up to a half year

[Saturnalia]

In addition to the monthly update, just posted...

1. It is as of yet unknown if CSX has, or will still, bid out 50 more SD40-3s that were in an option contract with MPI, but not optioned.

2. REPORT: Ten C40-8Ws are being sent to GE Erie, PA for re-manufacturing. This includes both mechanical and electronic elements. When complete, the units will have the same brains as the new GEVOs do. Apparently, NS isn't the only major carrier trying to get more years out of the hordes of Dash-8s. Time will tell if the program goes further.

3. Thus far, all of the B40/20-8s we have reported as retired have been spotted enroute to Larry's Truck and Electric. Their future, along with the rest of the units, are unknown.

[dave989]

What is the status on the standard cab C-40 dash 8's. Are they on
the block or not until years end? I saw 7592 on K901 a couple of
weeks ago.

[Saturnalia]

What is the status on the standard cab C-40 dash 8's. Are they on
the block or not until years end? I saw 7592 on K901 a couple of
weeks ago.

As we reported recently, they're all enroute to storage pending retirement. Most are already stored. If you catch one, you're pretty lucky at this point.

[Saturnalia]

Data update:

ALL B20-8s are now retired

ALL B40-8s are now retired

ALL C40-8s are now retired

Additional data coming as to how this impacts the bigger picture of the whole roster, sometime soon.

[Saturnalia]

Units destined for LTEX:

4839, 5910, 5949, 5953, 5971, 5974, 9157, 9163, 9241, 5517, 5537, 5569, 5824, 5847, 5851, 5867, 5897 and 5898.

All previous retirements, except the 4839, the first SD70AE stricken from the roster. She had ground relay problems. Probably the first non-wreck SD70ACe retirement from anywhere?

Full monthly update due up in the next couple of days...

[Saturnalia]

CSX Locomotive Roster Update August 2016

YN2 Repaints:
14 CW44AC
169 CW44AC
281 CW44AC
455 CW44AC
602 CW44AC
693 CW60AC
7682 C40-8W
Now 737 YN2

YN3 Repaints:
2233 RD SLUG
2546 GP38-2
4802 SD70AC
4818 SD70AC
6214 GP40-2
6461 GP40-2
Now 2349 YN3

New Units:
none

Rebuilds:
none

Retirements
4839 SD70AE
ALL B20-8s
ALL B40-8s
ALL C40-8s
7303 C40-8W
7316 C40-8W
7319 C40-8W
7323 C40-8W
7336 C40-8W
7839 C40-8W
Now 0 B20-8
Now 0 B40-8
Now 0 C40-8
Now 368 C40-8W
Now 19 SD70AE

New Paint totals (pct), change:
YN3B: 1197 (27.93%), -13
YN3: 2349 (54.82%), -94
YN2: 737 (17.20%), -101
YN1: 1 (0.02%), no change
CR: 1 (0.02%), no change

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1995.43 (+0.27)
Total Units on Roster: 4285 (-193)

*Build dates use whole years on the roster. Margin of error +/- 0.25 years

[Saturnalia]

This month, we're debuting several new measures of the roster for your viewing pleasure. They'll normally be found in the regular update, but for this first time, we're posting separately, to get some definitions down.

First up, we have a total horsepower counter. This uses the rated horsepower applied to each locomotive, summed for the entire roster. This includes storage units, and thus is the theoretical power output if every unit on the roster was put into gear at the same time. A very large number, it is.

Total Available Horsepower: 14,687,300

Second, is a new section tabulating builder data. General Electric and Electro-Motive are self-explanatory. CSX in-house covers all internal rebuilds that CSX themselves have completed. Note, that this DOES NOT include previous Chessie or Conrail rebuilds. Instead, those units and all other rebuilds by the likes of VMV, MPI and NRE are classed under "other".

Builder totals (pct), change:
General Electric: 2146 (50.08%)
Electro-Motive: 1543 (36.01%)
CSX in-house: 216 (5.04%)
Other: 380 (8.87%)

Third, we've added a built for listing. What's important to know, is that we consider rebuilds to be entirely new units, for the purpose of the roster. Hence, SD40-3s are CSX with a new build date, while 8800-series SD40-2s are considered Cornail, with the date when they were completed by CR. Thus, consider these totals either original construction, or most recent rebuild, if applicable. For the most part, our definition of rebuild includes a model designation change, such as SD40-2 to SD40-3, or GP35 to RD SLUG.

So essentially, this list tabulates what all was built for what railroad. While we do have data for each CSX predecessor road on file, they're listed according to the CSX family tree. Thus Chessie System covers all of the B&O, C&O, WM, and SBD covers the other side. Conrail is everything from Conrail, RDG or PC. Misc Predecessors are any direct takeovers by CSX (think RF&P), and all others include those built for the likes of EMDX, as demonstrators.

Built for totals (pct), change:
CSX Transportation: 2836 (66.18%)
Seaboard System: 529 (12.35%)
Conrail: 461 (10.76%)
Chessie System: 422 (9.85%)
Other [not from CSX tree]: 31 (0.72%)
Misc Predecessors: 6 (0.14%)

Any questions, please ask. There are a lot of thick explanations, so excuse me if I didn't make it clear enough - we can try again if need be

[trainspot]

Found photos of 1303, 1307 & 1321 at NRE with hoods open, are any of these stored, off the roster, or just back for work?

[MQT1223]

This month, we're debuting several new measures of the roster for your viewing pleasure. They'll normally be found in the regular update, but for this first time, we're posting separately, to get some definitions down.

First up, we have a total horsepower counter. This uses the rated horsepower applied to each locomotive, summed for the entire roster. This includes storage units, and thus is the theoretical power output if every unit on the roster was put into gear at the same time. A very large number, it is.

Total Available Horsepower: 14,687,300

Second, is a new section tabulating builder data. General Electric and Electro-Motive are self-explanatory. CSX in-house covers all internal rebuilds that CSX themselves have completed. Note, that this DOES NOT include previous Chessie or Conrail rebuilds. Instead, those units and all other rebuilds by the likes of VMV, MPI and NRE are classed under "other".

Builder totals (pct), change:
General Electric: 2146 (50.08%)
Electro-Motive: 1543 (36.01%)
CSX in-house: 216 (5.04%)
Other: 380 (8.87%)

Third, we've added a built for listing. What's important to know, is that we consider rebuilds to be entirely new units, for the purpose of the roster. Hence, SD40-3s are CSX with a new build date, while 8800-series SD40-2s are considered Cornail, with the date when they were completed by CR. Thus, consider these totals either original construction, or most recent rebuild, if applicable. For the most part, our definition of rebuild includes a model designation change, such as SD40-2 to SD40-3, or GP35 to RD SLUG.

So essentially, this list tabulates what all was built for what railroad. While we do have data for each CSX predecessor road on file, they're listed according to the CSX family tree. Thus Chessie System covers all of the B&O, C&O, WM, and SBD covers the other side. Conrail is everything from Conrail, RDG or PC. Misc Predecessors are any direct takeovers by CSX (think RF&P), and all others include those built for the likes of EMDX, as demonstrators.

Built for totals (pct), change:
CSX Transportation: 2836 (66.18%)
Seaboard System: 529 (12.35%)
Conrail: 461 (10.76%)
Chessie System: 422 (9.85%)
Other [not from CSX tree]: 31 (0.72%)
Misc Predecessors: 6 (0.14%)

Any questions, please ask. There are a lot of thick explanations, so excuse me if I didn't make it clear enough - we can try again if need be

This is interesting. I'd be curious to see if you could break this down further. Might go to show who took care of their units early on. Like I doubt much L&N or CRR power is left or WM power. I wonder how the Conrail power was picked and where it came from. The Misc. Predecessors are interesting too.

[Saturnalia]

I won't post this each time because it'd be a time consuming PITA which doesn't change much, but here is the situation currently. Remember, each family's total is the one I post earlier.

CSX = 2836

CR Family
CR = 412
PC = 28
RDG = 21

Chessie Family
CS = 18
C&O = 162
B&O = 209
WM = 33

SBD Family
SBD = 111
SCL = 139
L&N = 262
CRR = 10
GA = 7

Misc Predecessors
Western Railway of Alabama = 1
Atlanta and West Point = 1
RF&P = 4

FWIW all of the "misc" units, not built for a CSX Predecessor, were built for EMDX. And a note, we credit the SD70AEs to CSX, not EMDX, as built for.

Another thing to think about, is that with the exception of Conrail, basically every unit on this list is an EMD, since the oldest GEs on the roster are from 1990, as C40-8Ws built for CSX.

[MQT1223]

I won't post this each time because it'd be a time consuming PITA which doesn't change much, but here is the situation currently. Remember, each family's total is the one I post earlier.

CSX = 2836

CR Family
CR = 412
PC = 28
RDG = 21

Chessie Family
CS = 18
C&O = 162
B&O = 209
WM = 33

SBD Family
SBD = 111
SCL = 139
L&N = 262
CRR = 10
GA = 7

Misc Predecessors
Western Railway of Alabama = 1
Atlanta and West Point = 1
RF&P = 4

FWIW all of the "misc" units, not built for a CSX Predecessor, were built for EMDX. And a note, we credit the SD70AEs to CSX, not EMDX, as built for.

Another thing to think about, is that with the exception of Conrail, basically every unit on this list is an EMD, since the oldest GEs on the roster are from 1990, as C40-8Ws built for CSX.

Now THIS is cool.

[Saturnalia]

thx for quoting long posts in full everytime...really makes it easy to read the thread later.

[MQT1223]

I'll comment how I want. Thanks for being a prick.

[trainspot]

Just saw 4729 in fresh paint the other night.

[CSXTSD40-2]

Flickr proof of 8856 in fresh YN3B.

[MQT1223]

Apparently CSX 4617, the last straight SD40 CSX operated, has been donated to the C&O Historical Society in Clifton Forge, and will join 614 on Display.

Not CSX related, but the pair of unpatched C&NW Dash 9's were donated to IRM today as well.

[Saturnalia]

Apparently CSX 4617, the last straight SD40 CSX operated, has been donated to the C&O Historical Society in Clifton Forge, and will join 614 on Display.

Not CSX related, but the pair of unpatched C&NW Dash 9's were donated to IRM today as well.

4617 was indeed spotted on Q401 the other day with this as it's rumored destination. The unit has been destined for the C&OHS according to many, but just finally making its way there. This will be a roster subtraction for us this month.

And cool to hear about the CNW units. Sounds like if this traffic downturn has any upside, it is railroads retiring some of their more noteable older power and writing a couple off as donations. Good for them, and good for the historian in all of us.

[Evan]

Relating to the C&NW -9s, I was informed that the 8646 was signed 5 more years to UP, while 8701 was donated for good? Was that original bogus or did the plans change?