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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby patrick » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:34 am

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Subject: Re: [MEXLIST] Fiery head-on collision on Ferromex

At about 1:30am 5/30, two Ferromex trains collided head-on at km post A-1730 (about 75 miles north of Chihuahua and about 150 miles south of Ciudad Juárez) on the Moctezuma District in the state of Chihuahua. This resulted in a fire in both trains.

The two trains involved were northbound manifest train D-IRJZ-28 (Irapuato-Juárez) and southbound loaded unit grain train B-JZCU-29 (Juárez-Cuautitlán).The collision occurred between points called Mocho and Loaeza.

The conductor on the northbound manifest train is deceased. The engineer and brakeman on his train are in stable condition, as are the three crew members on the southbound unit grain train.

Here is an assessment of damage to the locomotives:

Locomotive FXE 3113, completely derailed, upright, structurally and fire damaged.
Locomotive FXE 3167, completely derailed and structurally and extremely fire damaged.
Locomotive CSXT 3099, on its side, structurally and fire damaged.
Locomotive FXE 4815, on its side, structurally and fire damaged.
Locomotive FXE 2034, impaled into locomotive FXE 3167, structurally and fire damaged.
Locomotive BNSF 3838 on the rear of the unit grain train sustained no damage.


Added here as CSXT 3099 was a unit with special paint for the training train.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:42 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 July 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 June, through 01 July.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

This month is lite update, with only four changes made. Of note, 2810 is a YN2 repaint, a rare EMD change, leaving us with only 26 remaining YN2 EMDs, with most of them stored.

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All Roster Changes since 01 June 2018
1538 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LOSX; YN3; Built in 1979 for CR
2207 RDSLUG YN3 Repaint
2810 GP38-2 YN2 Repaint
6436 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
Now 26 GP15-1 (-1)

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1431 (37.24%), +3
YN3: 1922 (50.01%), -3
YN2: 490 (12.75%), -1

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1920 (49.96%)
Electro-Motive: 1324 (34.43%) -1
CSX in-house: 234 (6.09%)
Other: 366 (10.00%)

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2672 (69.53%)
Seaboard System: 493 (12.83%)
Chessie System: 401 (10.43%)
Conrail: 272 (7.08%) -1
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 2 (0.05%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1566
DC: 2277 (-1)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.36 (no change)
Total Units on Roster: 3843 (-1)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,035,300 (-1500)

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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby dave989 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:52 pm

Saw a post on Railpictures.net of lines of stored SD-50's and 60's in Ravenna Ky.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:07 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 August 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 July, through 01 August.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

Another lite update for the first of August, with not many discoveries in July. We will be rolling back the as-yet unconfirmed SD60/I/M retirements before the next update. As you may recall, we received word around January that the entire fleet would be retired from a reliable source, but that decision was then pulled back apparently as the company was still in flux around the loss of CEO E. Hunter Harrison. And so only a few ended up retired, with most in storage since. We’ll bring back the ones we cannot confirm are retired. At least a half dozen are still active.

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All Roster Changes since 01 July 2018
915 ES44AH YN3 Repaint
1101 SW1500 Retired; YN3; Built in 1970 for L&N
2230 RDSLUG YN3 Repaint
2556 GP38-2 YN3 Repaint
6215 GP40-2 YN2 Repaint
6457 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint
8486 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8857 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
Now 19 SW1500 (-1)

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1438 (37.43%), +7
YN3: 1915 (49.84%), -7
YN2: 489 (12.73%), -1

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1920 (49.97%)
Electro-Motive: 1322 (34.41%) -1
CSX in-house: 234 (6.09%)
Other: 366 (10.00%)

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2672 (69.55%)
Seaboard System: 492 (12.81%)
Chessie System: 401 (10.44%)
Conrail: 272 (7.08%) -1
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 2 (0.05%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1566
DC: 2276 (-1)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 25

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.37 (+0.01)
Total Units on Roster: 3842 (-1)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,033800 (-1500)

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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:32 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 September 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 August, through 01 September.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

Another lite update for the first of August, with not many discoveries in July. We have rolled back the SD60/M/I units which were not actually retired back into our numbers. There are currently 21 SD60s, 23 SD60Is, and 24 SD60Ms.

Otherwise we have a few retirements and a few repaints. The 1601 is the last Genset on the roster, and is expected to also be retired soon as well.

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All Roster Changes since 01 August 2018
130 CW44AC Retired; Wrecked 04Feb2017 at Cayce, SC w/ AMTK91; Blt 1996; YN2
1308 3GS21B Retired; Sold to KHR RR; YN3; Blt 2009
1309 3GS21B Retired; Sold to KHR RR; YN3; Blt 2009
1310 3GS21B Retired; Sold to KHR RR; YN3; Blt 2010
1311 3GS21B Retired; Sold to KHR RR; YN3; Blt 2011
3099 ES44AH Retired; Wrecked in Mexico 2018; Blt 2013; YN3B; Sprit of W Springfield
7815 C40-8W Retired; Wrecked in KY May 2018; Blt 1992; YN3;
8804 SD40-2 YN2 Repaint
8840 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
9998 F40PH-2 YN3 Repaint; Rebuilt by CAD

Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
Now 549 ES44AH (-1)
Now 461 CW44AC (-1)
Now 194 C40-8W (-1)
Now 0 3GS21B (-4)

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1456 (37.30%), +2
YN3: 1958 (50.17%), -7
YN2: 489 (12.53%), -2

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1917 (49.12%) -3
Electro-Motive: 1390 (35.61%)
CSX in-house: 234 (6.00%)
Other: 362 (9.00%) -4

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2672 (68.46%) -7
Seaboard System: 492 (12.61%)
Chessie System: 401 (10.27%)
Conrail: 331 (8.48%)
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 4 (0.10%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1564 (-2)
DC: 2339 (-5)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.28 (-0.02)
Total Units on Roster: 3903 (-7)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,271,000 (-21,200)

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Unread postby O Scale Railfanner » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:04 pm

I’m guessing the majority of YN2 painted units are Dash 9’s at this point?
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Unread postby SD80MAC » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:07 pm

O Scale Railfanner wrote:I’m guessing the majority of YN2 painted units are Dash 9’s at this point?

AC4400s and Dash 8s.
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:07 pm

O Scale Railfanner wrote:I’m guessing the majority of YN2 painted units are Dash 9’s at this point?

GE Total 463
CW44AH 44
CW44AC 281
C40-9W 36
C40-8W 102
EMD Total 26
SD70AC 4
SD60M 1
SD60I 1
SD50-2 2
SD40-2 10
GP40-2 2
GP38-2 4
GP38-2S 1
SW1500 1
Grand Total 489
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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:10 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster Update As of 01 October 2018

Welcome to this month’s CSX Locomotive Roster Update! This update covers all changes discovered since 01 September through 01 October.

This report represents to the best of our knowledge, the working CSX locomotive roster. There are always changes we are not yet aware of – if you think you’ve spotted a new repaint, let us know!

This month we were able to confirm another slate of retirements, this time a bunch of random units in the end-cab switcher department. Interestingly, every single update for this month involves an EMD, no GEs to be found.

We can also confirm that CSX does have 10 SD70ACe-T4s on order for 2019 delivery, likely in Q1 or Q2. Beyond the fact that there is an order, we don’t yet know how they’ll be numbered, or anything else really.

Any questions? Comment below!

All Roster Changes since 01 September 2018
1104 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1970 for L&N; YN3B;
1109 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1970 for L&N; YN3;
1111 SW1500 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1971 for L&N; YN3;
1141 MP15 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for L&N; YN3B;
1143 MP15 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for L&N; YN3B;
1156 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1157 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1159 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1162 MP15AC Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1977 for SCL; YN3;
1172 MP15AC Retired; Sold to Progress Rail; Built in 1978 for SCL; YN3;
1214 MP15T Retired; Sold to St Mary's RR; Built in 1984 for SBD; YN3B;
1219 MP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1985 for SBD; YN3;
1509 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1514 GP15T Retired; Sold to Adams Warnock; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1520 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3B;
1523 GP15T Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1524 GP15T Retired; Sold to Adams Warnock; Built in 1982 for C&O; YN3;
1534 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1535 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to Valley RR; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1545 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
1549 GP15-1 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1979 for CR; YN3;
2214 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1988 for CSX; YN3;
2225 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1988 for CSX; YN3;
2296 RDSLUG Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1990 for CSX; YN3;
2574 GP38-2 Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1972 for L&N; YN3;
2661 GP38-2 Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1979 for GA; YN3;
6031 GP40-2 YN3 Repaint
6150 GP38-2S Retired; Sold to Progress Rail. Built in 1977 for B&O; YN3;
6427 GP40-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1978 for B&O; YN3;
6443 GP40-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1981 for B&O; YN3;
8040 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8431 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8487 SD40-2 YN3 Repaint
8579 SD50-2 Retired; Sold to LTEX; Built in 1984 for B&O; YN3;


Retirement Detail – Update to fleet Size:
Now 16 SW1500 (-3)
Now 7 MP15 (-2)
Now 47 MP15AC (-5)
Now 38 MP15T (-2)
Now 20 GP15T (-5)
Now 22 GP15-1 (-2)
Now 172 RDSLUG (-3)
Now 215 GP38-2 (-2)
Now 34 GP38-2S (-1)
Now 334 GP40-2 (-2)
Now 148 SD50-2 (-1)

Current Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1455 (37.58%) -1
YN3: 1929 (49.79%) -29
YN2: 489 (12.63%)

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1917 (49.51%)
Electro-Motive: 1363 (35.20%) -27
CSX in-house: 233 (5.99%) -1
Other: 360 (9.00%) -2

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2669 (68.90%) -3
Seaboard System: 478 (12.35%) -14
Chessie System: 392 (10.12%) -9
Conrail: 327 (8.45%) -4
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 4 (0.10%)
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.08%)

Traction Type
AC: 1564
DC: 2309 (-30)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 26

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1996.42 (+0.14)
Total Units on Roster: 3873 (-30)
Total Available Horsepower: 13,224,500 (-46,500) -0.4%

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Re: CSX Locomotive Roster News, Updates & Information Thread

Unread postby Saturnalia » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:39 pm

CSX Locomotive Roster, if all storage units were retired

So this hypothetical update takes the current roster and subtracts out all units currently in storage as part of the precision scheduled railroading makeover. Basically we take the storage list and “retire” them all. Yes, it’s gross. There are over 800 units on the storage list. No, we don’t think they’ll all be going away. But it’s an interesting “what if”. So here goes…

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What all would be retired?
1 ES44AH, leaving 548
2 CW44AH, leaving 126
23 CW44AC, leaving 461
1 ES40DC, leaving 300
13 C40-9W, leaving 36
3 C40-8WM, leaving 7
104 C40-8W, leaving 90
114 SD70AC, leaving 87
18 SD60, leaving 3
19 SD60I, leaving 4
12 SD60M, leaving 2
130 SD50-2, leaving 18
36 SD40-2, leaving 223
90 GP40-2, leaving 244
6 GP39-2, leaving 14
5 SD38-2, leaving 0
52 GP38-2, leaving 163
8 GP38-2S, leaving 26
16 GP15-1, leaving 6
7 GP15T, leaving 13
5 MP15, leaving 2
18 MP15T, leaving 20
33 MP15AC, leaving 14
9 SW1500, leaving 5
3 SD50-3, leaving 11
3 SD40-3, leaving 147
2 GP40-3, leaving 61
3 GP38-3, leaving 61
66 RDSLUG, leaving 106
7 SWMTYS, leaving 16

It’s worth noting here that for many model types, like the GEVOs, that the units in storage are likely mechanical in nature, but deemed currently not worth rebuilding, so they’re left in storage. But the mass storage types, like the SD50-2, SD70AC, and C40-8W are clearly visible as potential losses to future cuts.

With all of this in mind, if these units were all retired tomorrow, the new roster stats would look like:

Paint totals, (pct), change:
YN3B: 1275 (41.63%) -180
YN3: 1384 (45.18%) -545
YN2: 404 (13.19%) -85

Builder totals, (pct), change:
General Electric: 1770 (57.79%) -147
Electro-Motive: 795 (25.95%) -568
CSX in-house: 217 (7.08%) -16
Other: 281 (9.00%) -79

Built for totals, (pct)
CSX Transportation: 2331 (76.10%) -338
Seaboard System: 272 (8.88%) -206
Chessie System: 260 (8.49%) -132
Conrail: 194 (6.33%) -133
EMD Locomotive Leasing: 3 (0.10%) -1
Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac: 3 (0.10%)

Traction Type
AC: 1424 (-140)
DC: 1639 (-670)

YN2 EMDs Remaining: 16 (-10)

Average Fleet Build Date*: 1998.71 (+2.29)
Total Units on Roster: 3063 (-810)
Total Available Horsepower: 10,872,900 (-2,351,600) -17.8%

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